On Sunday, Jayson D. Cooke announced on the Young Australian Skeptics' website that the University of Southern Queensland was to host a seminar by scientists from Creation Ministries International (CMI). As Jayson pointed out, neither of the two scientists involved appears to hold any professional qualification related to the seminar subject - evolution - which lead some people to wonder why the university would sponsor them to speak on the subject.
Here's a Google cache of CMI's web page dated 17 September, 2010.
The page advertises a "university-organised seminar" and says "This is the first time in CMI’s history that a secular university has shown this sort of open-minded commitment to presentation of the ‘other side’ of this issue."
Here's a screen-shot from the same web page tonight...
This one says "Stop press! The arrangements for the seminar in Hervey Bay have changed. Several community organisations have expressed a wish to take a leading role in hosting the event and USQ Fraser Coast is working with these organisations to manage a smooth transition. Details of the venue will be available soon."
It seems USQ have reconsidered their support for a blatantly non-science event being touted as "the other side" of the truly scientific theory of evolution.
A win for science, reason and scepticism. Let's keep religion in churches, where it belongs.
via Young Australian Skeptics
UPDATE:
Read more at Wombat Wal's blog
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
Saturday, September 18, 2010
Homeopathy for Whooping Cough?
No!
Another Australian baby died from Whooping Cough (pertussis) this week. Some people are recommending that pertussis can be treated homeopathically - ie, with magic liquid or magic pills that contain nothing but water or sugar respectively.
Needless to say, neither water nor sugar are likely to be effective cures or preventatives for any disease, let alone a serious, life-threatening one. Indeed, extensive testing shows that homeopathy doesn't work.
And don't be misled by this article which describes homeopathy as "herbal remedies". To be herbal, the end product would need to contain some herbs. Homeopathic remedies, generally speaking, are highly unlikely to contain even a molecule of anything vaguely herbal, let alone a quantity large enough to induce any medicinal response. It's about time journalists understood this, it's hardly news any more.
Speaking of lagging behind - from the same article we get this plea...
What about it Mrs Roxon? How many dead babies does it take for someone to act - not only on vaccination education but against those who scare monger about vaccination or who seek to profit by selling snake oil to worried parents?
Why do bloggers have to do your damned job for you Mrs Roxon?
UPDATE:
I should add that I do like one comment from the news article...
I assume he means they're all bastards?
Another Australian baby died from Whooping Cough (pertussis) this week. Some people are recommending that pertussis can be treated homeopathically - ie, with magic liquid or magic pills that contain nothing but water or sugar respectively.
Needless to say, neither water nor sugar are likely to be effective cures or preventatives for any disease, let alone a serious, life-threatening one. Indeed, extensive testing shows that homeopathy doesn't work.
And don't be misled by this article which describes homeopathy as "herbal remedies". To be herbal, the end product would need to contain some herbs. Homeopathic remedies, generally speaking, are highly unlikely to contain even a molecule of anything vaguely herbal, let alone a quantity large enough to induce any medicinal response. It's about time journalists understood this, it's hardly news any more.
Speaking of lagging behind - from the same article we get this plea...
A four-week-old baby died in NSW last year. Dana McCaffery's parents have since become vocal advocates of vaccination.
Yesterday, Toni McCaffery posted her condolences to the SA baby's parents on a Facebook page and repeated her plea for the Federal Government to raise awareness and offer free vaccination to everyone.
'I am in tears . . . please Mrs Roxon act on your promise," she wrote. "We have been pleading all year for the government to act and not wait for another death. To the family, we are so, so sorry."
What about it Mrs Roxon? How many dead babies does it take for someone to act - not only on vaccination education but against those who scare monger about vaccination or who seek to profit by selling snake oil to worried parents?
Why do bloggers have to do your damned job for you Mrs Roxon?
UPDATE:
I should add that I do like one comment from the news article...
Australian Medical Association immunity spokesman Dr Rod Pearce said anyone recommending homeopathic "vaccinations" or treatments was illegitimate.
I assume he means they're all bastards?
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Thursday, September 16, 2010
COSMOS on vaccination
Three vaccination articles on COSMOS online...
Vaccination: Jumping at shadows
A vaccination story.
Vaccination: A Numbers Game
Explains the history and benefits of vaccination.
Vaccination: Danger Zones
Maps areas of high and low vaccination across Australia.
Found via SAVN
Vaccination: Jumping at shadows
A vaccination story.
Vaccination: A Numbers Game
Explains the history and benefits of vaccination.
Vaccination: Danger Zones
Maps areas of high and low vaccination across Australia.
Found via SAVN
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Sunday, September 12, 2010
Meryl Dorey, AVN: Neonatal sepsis & madness
*Note: I feel I should clarify that the word "madness" in the title refers to a comment made by Meryl Dorey.
Meryl Dorey, from the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) has posted two lengthy articles telling the tale of a woman who delivered her own baby at home but had to go to hospital the next day with related complications. Since this is the AVN, you can guess that, once the medical profession becomes involved, the story turns dark and we soon find ourselves on a journey of unimaginable bureaucracy, lies, heavy-handedness, unnecessary tests and pharmaceutical madness.
I have no reason to doubt the basic details of the article [update: That article has now been password protected for some reason but a copy is available here] but we must keep in mind that this is a second-hand account of a story initially told by someone who had found herself in exceptionally difficult and seemingly disturbing circumstances - so some of the details may be a little murky, though I don't doubt the woman's anguish even if the story is only partly correct. My main interest, however, is with Dorey's approach to medical facts, statistics and assumptions.
For the sake of brevity I'm not going to re-paste much of the article here. In short, the woman gave birth at home and the next day, after she and her baby had been taken to hospital, her baby had a fever and was subjected to tests and procedures, including a lumbar puncture, against the mother's will. Reading it, I was disturbed that doctors would be sticking a needle into a newborn's spine if the only concern was a raised temperature. Surely there must be something she's not telling us? Remember, I'm not a doctor - (neither is Meryl Dorey).
The doctors' refusal to submit to the mother's wishes forms the basis of Dorey's retelling of her story. Dorey is miffed, to say the least, that trained doctors would take action against the wishes of someone "using their brain" (yes, she still considers that a scientific qualification).
In the comments section, "Tom" points out that it appears the doctors acted in accordance with standard practice based on a risk of sepsis (I assume from his comments that Tom is a doctor or healthcare worker of some kind). Dorey responds (my bolding)...
As an aside, it's worth noting that despite writing almost 3400 words in the article, most of them condemning the medical profession and various government departments, Dorey never mentions sepsis once. The first mention of it on the page was in Tom's first comment where he succinctly explains, in a 27-word sentence, why it is medically negligent for a doctor not to act quickly. I'll leave that with you.
Now, back to Dorey's comment. Whilst she lists some possible complications of lumbar puncture in the article, most of which are "rare", "very rare", "extremely rare", or otherwise inconsequential, Dorey doesn't supply any data on the relative risks of either lumbar puncture or sepsis misdiagnosis. So, is it madness? Is it plain, or simple? I didn't know so I had a look around and it appears Tom is right and Dorey is, not surprisingly perhaps, wrong. First to Wikipedia...
The problem for doctors, as Tom mentioned in his comment, is that neonatal sepsis can present with nothing more than a fever...
These doctors were dealing with a baby just 24 hours old and suffering high temperature and who was delivered at home in unknown conditions by a mother who'd suffered heavy blood loss after failing to deliver the placenta. One imagines these doctors had some reasons to be concerned but, ignoring all the other factors, were they right to act so quickly, against the mother's wishes, when the baby only had a fever?
Dorey says "when doctors become the only ones whose opinion matters ... we have turned a corner into anarchy ("dictionary for Ms Dorey please!").
But why would doctors make a snap decision? Here's a few stats on the mortality rate of neonatal sepsis (my bolding).
So, almost 63% of neonates with early onset sepsis died. Almost two out of three of them died!
Now recall that neonatal sepsis can present with nothing more than a fever. Note too that, in his comment, Tom makes the point that an infected baby probably won't survive 24 hours without treatment. The WHO says that "The chances of survival are slim for newborns with a serious infection, whether hospitalized or in the community."
Did the doctors take the right action? Again, a bit of Googling says they followed protocol. From MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia (my bolding)...
So far, Tom appears to be on the money. The doctors acted correctly in the best interests of the baby, albeit against the wishes of the mother. But what about the lumbar puncture that had me concerned? From MedlinePlus again...
Bingo! That's why I don't offer medical advice and why my "feeling icky" about a procedure does not make that procedure invalid or unwarranted. Meryl Dorey's personal opinions and doubts carry similar weight where real medicine is concerned. Argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy.
So, facts we have at our disposal after 15-30 minutes of looking for information...
I'll leave you with some choice comments from Meryl in her comments section...
Hmmm, because antibiotics and evidence-based protocols are mediaeval? I wonder what she thinks of homeopathy?!?!
She was willing to take the chance that her baby might not have had sepsis - with a 63% mortality rate? Did she even know the risks? If I'm "willing to take the chance" that my nappy-wearing baby will bounce safely if I drop it on its backside, should I be allowed to take that chance? (I saw something along these lines in a video in high school, some 30 years ago, so I do have evidence)
The right to risk letting your child die when evidence suggests a possibly-life-saving alternative is a whole different discussion to whether these doctors acted correctly. We've seen this issue raised before with homeopathically-inclined parents who let their own baby die of eczema rather than use evidence-based medical help and others who preferred their cancer-stricken child be wrapped in mud rather than try chemotherapy. From America we've seen similar stories of parents who prayed while their child died from a treatable disease and others who ran from authorities wanting to save their child's life with chemotherapy.
I wonder if Dorey thinks there is anything the government should prevent parents from doing, regardless of the risks to their children's lives? Is every parent always right, as long as they claim to use their brain? For the record, I think Dorey, with her constant conspiratorial battle against rules, regulations and reality, is the one advocating anarchy.
The risk of ignoring possible sepsis was high - one quarter of the world's 4 million neonatal deaths are from sepsis. There was no time to "wait and see" since deaths often occur before the lab results are in. The risks of the complications Dorey prefers to highlight were, as usual, minimal.
This isn't Lotto but if it was, Dorey's preferred strategy seems to have been selected to minimise the chances of winning.
Once again we have a case of Dorey effectively arguing that "seat belts are bad because some people die whilst wearing them" yet refusing to acknowledge the life-saving statistics that counter such an argument. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to trust anything on the AVN websites. I wouldn't be making medical decisions based on Meryl Dorey's "feelings".
NOTE: Like Dorey, I'm neither a doctor nor a scientist.
Meryl Dorey, from the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) has posted two lengthy articles telling the tale of a woman who delivered her own baby at home but had to go to hospital the next day with related complications. Since this is the AVN, you can guess that, once the medical profession becomes involved, the story turns dark and we soon find ourselves on a journey of unimaginable bureaucracy, lies, heavy-handedness, unnecessary tests and pharmaceutical madness.
I have no reason to doubt the basic details of the article [update: That article has now been password protected for some reason but a copy is available here] but we must keep in mind that this is a second-hand account of a story initially told by someone who had found herself in exceptionally difficult and seemingly disturbing circumstances - so some of the details may be a little murky, though I don't doubt the woman's anguish even if the story is only partly correct. My main interest, however, is with Dorey's approach to medical facts, statistics and assumptions.
For the sake of brevity I'm not going to re-paste much of the article here. In short, the woman gave birth at home and the next day, after she and her baby had been taken to hospital, her baby had a fever and was subjected to tests and procedures, including a lumbar puncture, against the mother's will. Reading it, I was disturbed that doctors would be sticking a needle into a newborn's spine if the only concern was a raised temperature. Surely there must be something she's not telling us? Remember, I'm not a doctor - (neither is Meryl Dorey).
The doctors' refusal to submit to the mother's wishes forms the basis of Dorey's retelling of her story. Dorey is miffed, to say the least, that trained doctors would take action against the wishes of someone "using their brain" (yes, she still considers that a scientific qualification).
In the comments section, "Tom" points out that it appears the doctors acted in accordance with standard practice based on a risk of sepsis (I assume from his comments that Tom is a doctor or healthcare worker of some kind). Dorey responds (my bolding)...
Thank you for replying Tom. I have to say, I am appalled! The risk of a lumbar puncture has GOT to be greater then the risk that a fever – with no other symptoms – could be sepsis. This is madness, plain and simple...
As an aside, it's worth noting that despite writing almost 3400 words in the article, most of them condemning the medical profession and various government departments, Dorey never mentions sepsis once. The first mention of it on the page was in Tom's first comment where he succinctly explains, in a 27-word sentence, why it is medically negligent for a doctor not to act quickly. I'll leave that with you.
Now, back to Dorey's comment. Whilst she lists some possible complications of lumbar puncture in the article, most of which are "rare", "very rare", "extremely rare", or otherwise inconsequential, Dorey doesn't supply any data on the relative risks of either lumbar puncture or sepsis misdiagnosis. So, is it madness? Is it plain, or simple? I didn't know so I had a look around and it appears Tom is right and Dorey is, not surprisingly perhaps, wrong. First to Wikipedia...
The problem for doctors, as Tom mentioned in his comment, is that neonatal sepsis can present with nothing more than a fever...
It is difficult to clinically exclude sepsis in newborns less than 90 days old that have fever (defined as a temperature > 38°C (100.4°F).
These doctors were dealing with a baby just 24 hours old and suffering high temperature and who was delivered at home in unknown conditions by a mother who'd suffered heavy blood loss after failing to deliver the placenta. One imagines these doctors had some reasons to be concerned but, ignoring all the other factors, were they right to act so quickly, against the mother's wishes, when the baby only had a fever?
Dorey says "when doctors become the only ones whose opinion matters ... we have turned a corner into anarchy ("dictionary for Ms Dorey please!").
But why would doctors make a snap decision? Here's a few stats on the mortality rate of neonatal sepsis (my bolding).
A prospective study was carried out to determine the predictors of outcome in neonates with sepsis admitted to neonatal care unit at Basrah Maternity and Children Hospital over six months (from the first of November 2004 till the end of April 2005). One-hundred twenty neonates were studied, sepsis was confirmed by clinical and laboratory measures. Seventy four (61.7%) neonates were males and 46 (38.3%) were females. Thirty three (27.5%) were preterm and 87 (72.5%) were full term. Sixty seven (55.8%) neonates were still alive during period of hospitalization and discharged home, while fifty three (44.2%) neonates died. Early onset sepsis was detected in 35(29.2%) neonates while late onset sepsis was detected in 85(70.8%) neonates, however, the mortality rate was higher in early onset sepsis (62.9%) compared to late onset sepsis (36.5%).
So, almost 63% of neonates with early onset sepsis died. Almost two out of three of them died!
Now recall that neonatal sepsis can present with nothing more than a fever. Note too that, in his comment, Tom makes the point that an infected baby probably won't survive 24 hours without treatment. The WHO says that "The chances of survival are slim for newborns with a serious infection, whether hospitalized or in the community."
Did the doctors take the right action? Again, a bit of Googling says they followed protocol. From MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia (my bolding)...
Babies in the hospital and those younger than 4 weeks old are started on antibiotics before lab results are back. (Lab results may take 24-72 hours.) This practice has saved many lives.
So far, Tom appears to be on the money. The doctors acted correctly in the best interests of the baby, albeit against the wishes of the mother. But what about the lumbar puncture that had me concerned? From MedlinePlus again...
A lumbar puncture (spinal tap) will be done to examine the cerebrospinal fluid for bacteria.
Bingo! That's why I don't offer medical advice and why my "feeling icky" about a procedure does not make that procedure invalid or unwarranted. Meryl Dorey's personal opinions and doubts carry similar weight where real medicine is concerned. Argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy.
So, facts we have at our disposal after 15-30 minutes of looking for information...
- a newborn presented with a high temperature
- high temperature can indicate sepsis
- early onset sepsis can be fatal in 63% of cases
- doctors acted quickly to deal with possible sepsis
- they took blood samples and performed lumbar puncture
- they administered antibiotics as per accepted protocol
I'll leave you with some choice comments from Meryl in her comments section...
I would have thought that here in Australia, we were past this sort of mediaeval treatment of women and babies.
Hmmm, because antibiotics and evidence-based protocols are mediaeval? I wonder what she thinks of homeopathy?!?!
Until it is known that there is a bacterial infection present, the indiscriminate use of such invasive procedures should have been left up to the mother. If there had been any ramifications afterwards, it was the mother who would face them and she was willing to take that chance.
She was willing to take the chance that her baby might not have had sepsis - with a 63% mortality rate? Did she even know the risks? If I'm "willing to take the chance" that my nappy-wearing baby will bounce safely if I drop it on its backside, should I be allowed to take that chance? (I saw something along these lines in a video in high school, some 30 years ago, so I do have evidence)
The right to risk letting your child die when evidence suggests a possibly-life-saving alternative is a whole different discussion to whether these doctors acted correctly. We've seen this issue raised before with homeopathically-inclined parents who let their own baby die of eczema rather than use evidence-based medical help and others who preferred their cancer-stricken child be wrapped in mud rather than try chemotherapy. From America we've seen similar stories of parents who prayed while their child died from a treatable disease and others who ran from authorities wanting to save their child's life with chemotherapy.
I wonder if Dorey thinks there is anything the government should prevent parents from doing, regardless of the risks to their children's lives? Is every parent always right, as long as they claim to use their brain? For the record, I think Dorey, with her constant conspiratorial battle against rules, regulations and reality, is the one advocating anarchy.
Now, we have a baby who may have ongoing gut and immune system issues because of this and who could possibly have been made a paraplegic or killed because of the lumbar puncture that the mother did not want.
The risk of ignoring possible sepsis was high - one quarter of the world's 4 million neonatal deaths are from sepsis. There was no time to "wait and see" since deaths often occur before the lab results are in. The risks of the complications Dorey prefers to highlight were, as usual, minimal.
This isn't Lotto but if it was, Dorey's preferred strategy seems to have been selected to minimise the chances of winning.
Once again we have a case of Dorey effectively arguing that "seat belts are bad because some people die whilst wearing them" yet refusing to acknowledge the life-saving statistics that counter such an argument. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to trust anything on the AVN websites. I wouldn't be making medical decisions based on Meryl Dorey's "feelings".
NOTE: Like Dorey, I'm neither a doctor nor a scientist.
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Saturday, September 11, 2010
New blog to watch
There's a new sceptical blog on the Aussie radar and it might be worth keeping an eye on. It's run by two brothers living on opposite sides of Oz and is intriguingly entitled "SkepticBros". Hmmm, I wonder if there's some hidden meaning in there?
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Sunday, September 5, 2010
AVN: Kill a tiger, put lead in your pencil
Meryl Dorey of the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) regularly complains that sceptics call the AVN anti-science conspiracy theorists. But why do people apply this label to them?
Here's a hint from their Facebook page. Take special note of the responses in the blue-grey section. The opening comment is from Meryl Dorey herself. I suspect the second AVN comment is also hers, though unsigned....
I'll ignore the implicit racism in "Noelene's" response, illustrated by her apparent surprise that a Chinese and Indian doctor are each guided by evidence and are both gobsmacked that someone might prefer ancient spells, rituals and a bit of rhino horn over something that has a modicum of evidence behind it.
Yes, even some Chinese and Indian people can think like intelligent, educated people. I know, I know, wonders never cease! Couldn't they at least chant a little about qi or something - like real doctors do?
It gets difficult to ignore the racism, though, when the admin (Dorey?) joins in and takes a swipe at the nations of both China and India because they are beginning to let go of long-outdated, pre-scientific approaches to health care. She complains that they are turning their backs on things like Ayurveda because they've been told "Western medicine" (with a capital "w") is "scientific" (in quotes).
Now, here's the odd thing... One of the biggest complaints from the anti-vaccination crowd is that vaccines and pharmaceutical medicines are loaded with toxins. Yet, here they are promoting a non-evidence-based system of "health care" that is known to often include toxic heavy metals.
And these aren't trace amounts of so-called toxins, like the formaldehyde found in some vaccines, these are toxic levels of heavy metals. Could this be why "eastern" doctors are turning their backs on it? Maybe they care about the health of their patients?
Traditional Chinese Medicine has similar problems. A search for TCM lead poisoning turns up plenty of results. I'd like to think Chinese doctors are starting to see that evidence-based medicine might just be better than a dose of mercury poisoning or the bile from a tortured bear.
And then we get to that old chestnut which can be summed up as - "we are so unhealthy these days because of western medicine and the crap we eat"...
High levels of cancer, heart disease, chronic illness - in those 'scientific' societies. And as these countries adopt our diet and our medical system, they see a similar increase as well.
While I suspect there are a few more differences between western and eastern nations than just diet and health systems, I decided to find out if we really are less healthy than other countries.
I checked the World Life Expectancy Map and sure enough, both China and India could do with some of our "problems". While Australians, with all our evil medicines and vaccines and a bunch of animals who seem to want to kill us, can expect, on average, to live to over 81 years old, the Chinese drop off the perch around 73 years of age and Indians don't make it past 66! Even Americans, with all those super-sized hamburgers and "fries", make it to 78!
Why do the AVN promote toxic remedies and the rapid extinction of animal species that are being killed just so their parts can be sold in expensive mystical remedies that don't work?
I really don't think I can take health advice from a group that appears to think that humans have more use for a tiger's penis than a tiger does.
Here's a hint from their Facebook page. Take special note of the responses in the blue-grey section. The opening comment is from Meryl Dorey herself. I suspect the second AVN comment is also hers, though unsigned....
I'll ignore the implicit racism in "Noelene's" response, illustrated by her apparent surprise that a Chinese and Indian doctor are each guided by evidence and are both gobsmacked that someone might prefer ancient spells, rituals and a bit of rhino horn over something that has a modicum of evidence behind it.
Yes, even some Chinese and Indian people can think like intelligent, educated people. I know, I know, wonders never cease! Couldn't they at least chant a little about qi or something - like real doctors do?
It gets difficult to ignore the racism, though, when the admin (Dorey?) joins in and takes a swipe at the nations of both China and India because they are beginning to let go of long-outdated, pre-scientific approaches to health care. She complains that they are turning their backs on things like Ayurveda because they've been told "Western medicine" (with a capital "w") is "scientific" (in quotes).
Now, here's the odd thing... One of the biggest complaints from the anti-vaccination crowd is that vaccines and pharmaceutical medicines are loaded with toxins. Yet, here they are promoting a non-evidence-based system of "health care" that is known to often include toxic heavy metals.
And these aren't trace amounts of so-called toxins, like the formaldehyde found in some vaccines, these are toxic levels of heavy metals. Could this be why "eastern" doctors are turning their backs on it? Maybe they care about the health of their patients?
Traditional Chinese Medicine has similar problems. A search for TCM lead poisoning turns up plenty of results. I'd like to think Chinese doctors are starting to see that evidence-based medicine might just be better than a dose of mercury poisoning or the bile from a tortured bear.
And then we get to that old chestnut which can be summed up as - "we are so unhealthy these days because of western medicine and the crap we eat"...
While I suspect there are a few more differences between western and eastern nations than just diet and health systems, I decided to find out if we really are less healthy than other countries.
I checked the World Life Expectancy Map and sure enough, both China and India could do with some of our "problems". While Australians, with all our evil medicines and vaccines and a bunch of animals who seem to want to kill us, can expect, on average, to live to over 81 years old, the Chinese drop off the perch around 73 years of age and Indians don't make it past 66! Even Americans, with all those super-sized hamburgers and "fries", make it to 78!
Why do the AVN promote toxic remedies and the rapid extinction of animal species that are being killed just so their parts can be sold in expensive mystical remedies that don't work?
I really don't think I can take health advice from a group that appears to think that humans have more use for a tiger's penis than a tiger does.
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Friday, September 3, 2010
Homeopathy and Eastern Medicine
Supporters of so-called "alternative medicine" often dismiss modern medicine as "western", implying that supporters of it are not open to viewpoints on health from other cultures. Sceptics and promoters of evidence-based medicine are often implored to embrace "eastern wisdom".
I'd like to set things straight right now and state that I fully support the health message coming out of Japan in recent weeks, as reported in The Washington Times...
TOKYO (Agence France-Presse) | The physician to Japanese Emperor Akihito and top scientists have slammed homeopathy as an "absurd" medicine, urging health workers to stay clear of the alternative treatment as it grows in popularity.
"I cannot help but feel strong bewilderment" over the recent rise in homeopathy's use as a treatment in Japan, said Ichiro Kanazawa, who chairs the prestigious Science Council of Japan.
"The reason is that it ignores science," Dr. Kanazawa, who is also the medical supervisor for Japan's Imperial Household Agency, said in a statement.
The controversy has been fueled by reports that a 2-month-old girl died last year of a cerebral hemorrhage in Japan after she was given a homeopathic remedy instead of the normal treatment of vitamin K.
Once again we see how a "treatment" with "no side effects" can still have devastating results if it means people don't get the treatment they actually need to survive.
Like homeopathy, sitting in a cardboard box has no side effects - but it isn't going to cure cancer either, or correct a vitamin K deficiency. Promoting something as better just because it has no side effects is completely silly if the product or procedure is also demonstrated to have no beneficial effects.
After carefully harvesting several dozen fields to gather together truckloads of straw to build their man with, Japan's homeopathy association said...
"The stance of judging that it has no effect because it cannot be explained by conventional theories is unscientific, and we are taken aback," the association said in an e-mail message to Agence France-Presse.
I know what they mean. It's unscientific to say that my idea of sitting in a cardboard box can't cure cancer just because you can't explain why it does. Science also can't explain why I can fly unassisted or how I am able to be in six places at one time or how I can write this blog with no access to any electronic devices.
Of course, homeopathy isn't really dismissed just because it's completely implausible. It's dismissed because, like my cardboard box remedy, it fails any half-decent test of its efficacy. Science has no need for an explanation of how homeopathy works when science knows it doesn't work.
First seen at The Second Sight where you'll also find some interesting discussion on Meryl Dorey and statistics
MORE:
Homeopathy scientifically disproven
Homeopathy in Japan
Perth homeopaths
I'd like to set things straight right now and state that I fully support the health message coming out of Japan in recent weeks, as reported in The Washington Times...
"I cannot help but feel strong bewilderment" over the recent rise in homeopathy's use as a treatment in Japan, said Ichiro Kanazawa, who chairs the prestigious Science Council of Japan.
"The reason is that it ignores science," Dr. Kanazawa, who is also the medical supervisor for Japan's Imperial Household Agency, said in a statement.
The controversy has been fueled by reports that a 2-month-old girl died last year of a cerebral hemorrhage in Japan after she was given a homeopathic remedy instead of the normal treatment of vitamin K.
Once again we see how a "treatment" with "no side effects" can still have devastating results if it means people don't get the treatment they actually need to survive.
Like homeopathy, sitting in a cardboard box has no side effects - but it isn't going to cure cancer either, or correct a vitamin K deficiency. Promoting something as better just because it has no side effects is completely silly if the product or procedure is also demonstrated to have no beneficial effects.
After carefully harvesting several dozen fields to gather together truckloads of straw to build their man with, Japan's homeopathy association said...
"The stance of judging that it has no effect because it cannot be explained by conventional theories is unscientific, and we are taken aback," the association said in an e-mail message to Agence France-Presse.
I know what they mean. It's unscientific to say that my idea of sitting in a cardboard box can't cure cancer just because you can't explain why it does. Science also can't explain why I can fly unassisted or how I am able to be in six places at one time or how I can write this blog with no access to any electronic devices.
Of course, homeopathy isn't really dismissed just because it's completely implausible. It's dismissed because, like my cardboard box remedy, it fails any half-decent test of its efficacy. Science has no need for an explanation of how homeopathy works when science knows it doesn't work.
First seen at The Second Sight where you'll also find some interesting discussion on Meryl Dorey and statistics
MORE:
Homeopathy scientifically disproven
Homeopathy in Japan
Perth homeopaths
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Wednesday, September 1, 2010
AVN: Engaged in plagiarism?
Today's Sydney Morning Herald reports that the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) has withdrawn "information packs" from its website after allegations that the packs included copyrighted material (my bolding)...
It appears this has gone well beyond a bit of grumbling from people looking for any way to inflict pain on the anti-vaccination group...
Meanwhile, Meryl Dorey has put her hand(s) out once again and asked AVN supporters to dig deep, really deep, and throw (more) money at the ailing organisation...
I live in a smallish town and I had a chat with the ladies from the local pottery group the other day. They say they have some sympathy for the AVN.
Tuesday's biscuit monitor, Mildred Hadleigh, told me that the ladies are sick and tired of impromptu visits from ASIO and the Federal Police and complained of unwarranted intrusions into the group's affairs. "It's a damned nuisance", she said, "You're just about to take a sip of tea and a helicopter buzzes you from out of nowhere. We only charge $1 for tea and a Tim Tam so it's not like we're high rollers or anything. This persecution of honest potters has to stop."
Actually, I think Mildred's a little batty and prone to fantasy - but she makes a nice cup of tea and often forgets I've already had one, or two, Tim Tams as she repeatedly insists I have "just one". When she notices the packet is empty, she tells me about how she knows it's the Australian Navy who keep taking them. Who am I to tell her different?
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Comment from Vaccination Awareness & Information Service
CREDIT:
I've been a little remiss in noting that, although I am not an SAVN contributor, the StopAVN Facebook page has been a springboard for some of my recent articles, including this one.
The packs, which were selling for up to $128, included home-made books filled with articles photocopied from journals around the world, information on drugs taken from MIMS, the medical guide used by doctors and nurses, and copies of brochures inserted in medication boxes by pharmaceutical companies.
It appears this has gone well beyond a bit of grumbling from people looking for any way to inflict pain on the anti-vaccination group...
Mary-Anne Toy, from The Age newspaper, said she did not recall giving the network permission to sell her work and would seek payment. Leigh Dayton, a science reporter at The Australian newspaper, was also unaware her story was being sold.
Meanwhile, Meryl Dorey has put her hand(s) out once again and asked AVN supporters to dig deep, really deep, and throw (more) money at the ailing organisation...
Yesterday she asked her supporters for $150,000 to fight the HCCC claiming it ''stepped outside of its jurisdiction to persecute a non-profit organisation''.
I live in a smallish town and I had a chat with the ladies from the local pottery group the other day. They say they have some sympathy for the AVN.
Tuesday's biscuit monitor, Mildred Hadleigh, told me that the ladies are sick and tired of impromptu visits from ASIO and the Federal Police and complained of unwarranted intrusions into the group's affairs. "It's a damned nuisance", she said, "You're just about to take a sip of tea and a helicopter buzzes you from out of nowhere. We only charge $1 for tea and a Tim Tam so it's not like we're high rollers or anything. This persecution of honest potters has to stop."
Actually, I think Mildred's a little batty and prone to fantasy - but she makes a nice cup of tea and often forgets I've already had one, or two, Tim Tams as she repeatedly insists I have "just one". When she notices the packet is empty, she tells me about how she knows it's the Australian Navy who keep taking them. Who am I to tell her different?
MORE:
Comment from Vaccination Awareness & Information Service
CREDIT:
I've been a little remiss in noting that, although I am not an SAVN contributor, the StopAVN Facebook page has been a springboard for some of my recent articles, including this one.
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